Alright, now that the new Vertex Box is out, I have to ways of remaking Tetra, and I’m going to make a poll. You guys will decide.

How do you want Tetra to be made?

A) Full vertex hack?

B) PSA that only affects one slot WITH a vertex hack of the body?

You decide!

Also, another poll. I have been working on a few different things lately, and I want you guys to decide what you want me to concentrate on, and finish, once I (hopefully) finish Tetra.

Vote vote vote!

46 Responses to “Tetra..”

  1. 1 Escargot 08/10/2010 at 1:01 PM

    Please no PSA. Even if it would just affect one slot I still have to delete the one for Geno. Maybe you could port TL over someone else and make the PSA for him/her.

  2. 2 BigSharkZ 08/10/2010 at 1:06 PM


    Actually, you could combine both Geno’s PSA and the Tetra head PSA together, and it would still work, if I’m correct. Besides, Geno was ported over Lucas, so why don’t you use that one?

  3. 3 razanak7 08/10/2010 at 1:12 PM

    Whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa. Single slot movesets AND a new Vertex Box?

    Man, I REALLY need to pay more attention.

  4. 4 Pinutk 08/10/2010 at 2:26 PM

    I would say just a vertex hack. I choose that because Tetra doesn’t really do anymore than what ToonLink could do right? It has been years since I played Wind Waker so I don’t remember correctly. So yeah a vertex hack should work just fine πŸ™‚
    And the AVGN would be kick ass! πŸ˜€

  5. 5 Adirondack 08/10/2010 at 2:46 PM

    How can a PSA work on just one slot?

  6. 6 Calamitas 08/10/2010 at 3:09 PM

    I think you should try doing a complete vertex hack for this, even though this would most likely screw up the hat animations.

  7. 7 Ninka_kiwi 08/10/2010 at 3:24 PM

    hmm im pretty sure that the moveset would take less time (since beyondyou did a similer thing in one day for paper mario)
    and it would look better so I guess i’ll go with that…
    also do you plan on vertexing her knife as well?

  8. 8 The Right Honorable Judge Wallace P. Grindstump 08/10/2010 at 4:22 PM

    For some reason, I wasn’t looking forward to Tetra before, But now I am. But anyway I think It should be a vertex hack.

  9. 9 BigSharkZ 08/10/2010 at 4:46 PM

    Hmm, it looks like it’s gonna be a vertex hack after all, BUT, there is one downside; the wind. Toon Link’s hair bones react to it. I once asked Kryal how to fix it, and he told me how, but sadly, I forgot how I did it exactly. Mastaklo said he removed the AI file of Sonic for Shadow’s quills not to be affected by the wind, but the AI stopped working, obviously. That’s not what I did, though. I’ll try to find my Tetra file and if I find it, then this will be perfect. The one-slot PSA was a theory that might work, but it would have to be used on an ISO, or with Riivolution, unless a file that is twice as big as the original PSA can be loaded with an SD Card.

  10. 10 thanyou 08/10/2010 at 4:59 PM

    @ bigsharkz

    Iirc, the reason certain bones move in the wind is because they have bone properties that (I BELIEVE) are editable in brawlbox

    Also in regards to Tetra, definitely try and make it work as a vertex, but make a psa to go with it that it doesn’t depend on (like the old Majoras mask skull kid one)

  11. 11 The Right Honorable Judge Wallace P. Grindstump 08/10/2010 at 5:00 PM


    Now that I think about It, It would be a good idea for you to make both versions so people have a choice.

  12. 12 thanyou 08/10/2010 at 5:04 PM

    Never mind what I said about editing in Brawlbox, I assumed that, because RTB used the same method to “clean” Lloyd’s bones so they didn’t have such properties, because when i checked the bones on his hat there were no extra properties under Collections >.<

  13. 13 BigSharkZ 08/10/2010 at 5:17 PM


    I’m not really good with PSAs, so I’ll let anyone make one.


    Well, that would mean a lot of work. I’d like to have one thing done first.

    Also, I found the file, but I’m not sure what value is for the wind. However, we could just replace the animations of the file with Toon Link’s original animations, and it would be done.

  14. 14 Decoy 08/10/2010 at 5:55 PM

    What exactly is the difference between the two choices? Option A is just the vertex hack and option B is the PSA AND vertex hack? I’m fine with just the vertex hack but it would be interesting to see a well done PSA over Tetra.

  15. 15 Kyle 08/10/2010 at 8:08 PM

    Yay, Tetra’s back! Sorry I bugged you so much for her… XD

  16. 16 TAG 08/10/2010 at 8:19 PM

    Wait, so this would mean that you could have Toon Link’s regular moveset as well as Tetra’s PSA moveset on the same character? And then this could mean that this could happen to other PSA’s on other characters as well?

  17. 17 pokechao 08/10/2010 at 9:43 PM

    cool vertex hack but i have a question can i join the team? i’ve asked in the team section and noones responded D:

  18. 18 owned645 08/10/2010 at 9:55 PM

    The other choices didn’t really appeal to me so I just picked Mario with a sombrero.

  19. 19 hero1771 08/10/2010 at 10:41 PM

    one slot movesets? how??? O_O

    i rly want it one slot.

  20. 20 Ian 08/10/2010 at 11:48 PM

    I have a question. How do you make a 1 slot PSA? A simple link will suffice.

  21. 21 fireking220 08/11/2010 at 12:37 AM

    Making a one slot PSA is VERY commplicated and VERY tedious. What would have to happen (I think) would be to take an inanimate bone (such as links sword) and stem all graphical effects off of that one bone. Then for the rest of the costumes shrink that bone to 0 so all the effects shrink to 0 with it.

    yea I know stuff πŸ˜€ (Razanak7 helped me a bit though)

    And BSZ’s theory could work as well, changing all the bones of tetra and making it so the PSA is made of those bones so she would only be affected

  22. 22 Mochtroid127 08/11/2010 at 3:10 AM

    So that means that it is possible (maybe not easy, but possible) to do single slot PSAs, which is just plain awesome. I still remember when it was hard enough doing textures and burning a disc to begin with.

  23. 23 fireking220 08/11/2010 at 4:55 AM

    it is entirely possible but the model the PSA is suppose to represent (Ala Geno) would have all the hitboxes of the other characters plus its own hitboxes

  24. 24 darkshadedx 08/11/2010 at 8:46 AM

    A Tetra PSA wouldnt really be all that great, only because she hasnt got much going for her..
    The vertex looks amazing as always :3
    and yeah I’m the one who ported Geno over Lucas
    I’m having a PSA done here:

  25. 25 NecroMaster 08/11/2010 at 10:28 AM

    If you make AVGN, could you make a better version of mine? He was all glitchy and parts of the texture kinda sucked. So if you make him, you need to revamp mine. But if you don’t want to make it on marth, do it on some cool.

  26. 26 BigSharkZ 08/11/2010 at 11:34 AM

    Alright guys, I decided to do a vertex hack without a PSA, as it’s easier. Me and Pik are working on it. I positioned the hair, we both kept fixing each other’s works, then I did the front of the hair, fixed the sides, and started working on the body. I also made the ears. It’s going well so far.

  27. 27 BigSharkZ 08/11/2010 at 11:35 AM

    Oh and I decided to continue working on the AVGN, as it was the most requested one. There’s no need to vote anymore now.

  28. 28 vcv 08/11/2010 at 11:49 AM

    Thanks to made Tetra ^^

  29. 29 BigSharkZ 08/11/2010 at 12:01 PM

    Progress on Tetra:

  30. 30 starwaffle 08/11/2010 at 12:21 PM

    looking great! toon link is so compatible with vertex hacks =]

  31. 31 BigSharkZ 08/11/2010 at 1:07 PM



    Also, more progress:

  32. 32 Segtendo 08/11/2010 at 3:40 PM

    Nice Tetra BSZ πŸ˜€ Who is AVGN going on?

  33. 33 BigSharkZ 08/11/2010 at 3:47 PM

    Thanks, and he will be on Snake. Vertex hacked shirt, shoes, pants, glasses, and hair, with a simple PSA that will replace like, two or three moves, and sound effects (Stickman offered to do 3).

  34. 34 Segtendo 08/11/2010 at 4:33 PM

    Just rip some from his videos lol.
    I want him to go “ASSSSSSSSS” when he dies.

  35. 35 flaminshrooms 08/11/2010 at 5:26 PM

    So are you still going to do the other stuff after you finish AVGN? I’m really looking forward to Mt. Silver and Sombrero Mario.

  36. 36 BigSharkZ 08/11/2010 at 5:34 PM


    Well, for the three sounds Stickman will do, I asked him to do him saying “SHORYUKEN!” for the PSA, and two insults.


    Of course! πŸ˜›

  37. 37 anivernage 08/11/2010 at 6:49 PM

    You could finish the starship mario

  38. 38 adjsonic 08/11/2010 at 8:04 PM

    one slot psa imagine cloud vs. naruto.

    shadow vs. sonic and

    marth vs.roy

  39. 39 fireking220 08/11/2010 at 8:38 PM

    Marth vrs Roy…

    Now that is actually very possible, and actually very easy to do

  40. 40 hero1771 08/11/2010 at 9:22 PM

    is shadow possible? if anyone made it, they would be a god.

  41. 41 adjsonic 08/12/2010 at 6:29 AM

    then how fireking. I want that soo bad. And shadow over sonic in one slot wouldn’t be impossible.

  42. 42 BigSharkZ 08/12/2010 at 11:02 AM

  43. 43 fireking220 08/12/2010 at 6:13 PM


    my theory, that’s how, but I’m not gonna do it, PSA is not my thing

  44. 44 Hugo 08/12/2010 at 10:41 PM


  45. 45 darkchris126 08/13/2010 at 12:29 AM

    bigsharkz ur a good vertex hacker. is it possible to edit charizards wings and his body and make them skinny so we can finally have ridley. cuz the texture is done. i just wanna know if its possible.

  46. 46 Adirondack 08/13/2010 at 10:30 AM

    @darkchris126 on brawlvault Angelglory already made ridley a character, it might be only vr.1 but still

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